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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 12, 2004 22:35:50 GMT -5
A Phone Bank Team of volunteers is being organized by the Franklin County Bush/Cheney Committee, email or pm me if your interested. We will meet on Thursdays at the GOP HQ, starting next week.
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Post by bcressler on Jul 13, 2004 19:46:19 GMT -5
After a talk with a local politician tonight i was asked to see if I could organize a few firefighters for one night at the ship fair to have a night of firefighters for bush to shake hands and hand out political stuff for the republican party...If any local ff's are intrested please pm me.
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 16, 2004 9:10:31 GMT -5
Shippensburg Fair July 26-31 "Firefighters For Bush Coalition" will be represented one night...Need Help! Schedule Monday: "W Stands For Women" Coalition Tuesday: "Farmers & Ranchers For Bush" Coalition Wedensday: "W Stands For Women: Coalition Thursday: [glow=red,2,300] "Firefighters For Bush" Coalition[/glow] Friday: "Veterans For Bush" Coalition Saturday: "Young Professionals For Bush" Coalition Anybody that fits into these professions or lifestyles, give me a call!!
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 27, 2004 8:11:50 GMT -5
Is this the man you want to be president? Remember this?
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 27, 2004 18:43:17 GMT -5
DUKAKIS WATCH – DAY 2 Have You Seen This Man?________________________________________
JOHN KERRY: MICHAEL DUKAKIS' LT. GOVERNOR (1983-1984) Kerry Wrong On Taxes & Spending As Lt. Governor
In 1983 Letter, Kerry Said Federal Government Didn't Need To Cut Taxes. "We don't need enormous tax breaks for the wealthy …" (Lt. Gov. John F. Kerry, Letter To Paul Mann, 4/83)
Kerry Called 1981 Tax Cut, Which Reduced Top Rate To 50 Percent, "Misguided." "Our offices of Federal/State Relations has been studying [President Reagan's FY 1985 budget] … Based on these preliminary findings, we can report that the President's proposals once again ask our state to shoulder the burden for misguided policies of the past three years which have attempted to cut taxes for the wealthy …" (Lt. Gov. John F. Kerry, Statement, 2/1/84)
Dukakis-Kerry Administration Supported Higher Gas Taxes. "The Massachusetts Legislature … passed and sent to Gov. Michael S. Dukakis a gasoline tax bill that establishes an 11-cent-a-gallon floor, which means an increase of 1.1 cents a gallon over the current tax. … It was seen as a victory for the Dukakis administration … The administration, in one of the heaviest lobbying efforts in recent years, pushed for the … floor when wholesale prices began dropping sharply because of a world oil glut." (Andrew Blake, "Mass. Legislature OK's Bill Putting Floor Under Gas Tax," The Boston Globe, 3/30/83)
"At A March 1983 Cabinet Meeting, Mr. Kerry Wrote, 'Gas Tax - Full Court Press.' Two Weeks Later, The Measure Was Law." (Josh Gerstein, "Archives Tell Tale Of Kerry's Career," The New York Sun, 1/26/04)
Dukakis-Kerry Vetoed Tax Cuts That Would Have Helped Elderly. "Hours after the Legislature gave lopsided approval to a four-year tax cut, Gov. Michael S. Dukakis … vetoed it, denouncing it as 'irresponsible' and 'sloppily put together.' … The tax cut … would have saved taxpayers from $280 million to $600 million over the four year period. The two-pronged package would have increased personal exemptions by $200 - resulting in cuts of from $10.75 to nearly $90 per taxpayer - and eliminated the 10 percent tax on unearned income up to $6600 for couples over 65." (Laurence Collins, "Tax Cut Is Vetoed By Dukakis," The Boston Globe, 7/12/84)
FY 1984 Dukakis-Kerry Budget Would Have Increased Taxes By $131 Million. (Norman Lockman, "Those Who Would Feel The Bite," The Boston Globe, 3/6/83)
Dukakis-Kerry Proposal Would Have Raised Taxes On: "Smokers, Motorists, Gamblers, Beverage Industry, Hospitals And Banks." (Norman Lockman, "Those Who Would Feel The Bite," The Boston Globe, 3/6/83)
Tax Hikes Came As Dukakis-Kerry Added $295 Million To Budget. "Contributing to th[e] deficit are $295 million in budget additions made by the Dukakis team. They come in the areas of human services, crime-fighting, economic development, higher education, housing for the homeless and increasing the state's own anti-corruption efforts." (Editorial, "The Duke's Budget," The Boston Herald, 3/3/83
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 30, 2004 4:12:28 GMT -5
Thanks to all that stopped by the Firefighters For Bush Coalition stand at the Bush/Cheney Re-election station at the Shippensburg Fair.
Special Thanks to Bob Timko. For those that don't know, Bob is co-chair of the Pennsylvania Firefighters For Bush coalition and is on the National Stearing Committee for the Bush/Cheney campaign. Also, I want to thank Bob Cressler from 53 for his help. He's a good example of how we can help combat the IAFF lies!
Speaking with a large amount of first responders from the area, the liberals should be very concerned! Now, for those that took bumber stickers, let's get them on our vehicles and get the word out. I'm still looking for a core of firefighers/emt's that we can make a showing for the president at future events!!
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Post by Youngpup on Jul 30, 2004 18:16:34 GMT -5
You still haven't proven to me that the IAFF has lied to me....Remember.. FIREFIGHTER ISSUES NOT anything else. I'm with you on everything else, gun control, abortion, etc. but this is not the site for that. FIREFIGHTER ISSUES.
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 30, 2004 23:11:52 GMT -5
The fact that the IAFF is telling you and intimidating the others into believing that JFKerry will do you better is all that needs to be said. But I will ask you, what did JK say in his speech that is good for the fire service. I will tell you that he mentioned firefighters once, and that was only in reference to the FDNY on 9/11.
By the end of 2004, total funding in support of planning, training, and exerces will exceed $10 billion. 290k first responders went through NFA in Emmittsburg and another 410k went to other facilities, all federal monies appropriated by the administration.
There has been $8 million in grants to research new protection clothing.
The Department of Homeland Security, a Bush initiative, adopted it first standards regading personal protective equipment developed to protect first responders against NBC.
The DHS budget in FY05 includes $3.6 billion for terrorism and emergency prepardness grants and assistance.
In all up to now, the DHS has awarded $2 billion nationally to more thatn 20k fd's. Another $500 million is million is to be appropriated in 2005. I believe some of our own local companies have begun to recieve some of these monies from the HS, from the earlier budgets.
As a whole, the administration has appropriated $17 billion for state and local fire departments, law enforcement, public health bio defence, and emergency response.
Now King Harold is holding back on you, for he is the co-chair of Kerry's campaign. It's logical that he would not poll his union members for the candidate that they would like to endorse. I say logical, for he said it himself, a majority of the union is Republican and even more conservative. Open your eyes people, the Dem Nat'l Convention didn't have anything that referenced the fire service. Your being used!
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 30, 2004 23:16:36 GMT -5
As far as debating the other issues, get a life if your picking you candidate based on the wishes of you union. The other issues are as tangable as the fire service issues. Gay marriage, gun control, tough on crime judges, school prayer, using the United Nations, ect. They are all important, and I argue them whenever the subject comes up. Oh, by the way, I attempted to debate a IAFF For Kerry dude at the Fair and he ran when the facts were thrown out at him...all he could say is "you don't want to go there". Well "BROTHER", I'm there, it's time to put up or shut up.
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Post by johny on Jul 31, 2004 10:55:01 GMT -5
Hey ben
how can you call yourself a firefighter?
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 31, 2004 12:34:32 GMT -5
I may have thought that my current inactive status would come up but it has no bearing on my love of the fire service...but who are YOU to question me on my involvement in the service. I should think that those that volunteer (and you do) and are a career smokie, you would want to question the leadership of King Harold. But if your worried about me pushing the issue, I'm happy because my job is half over. For I know what kind of campaign that Kerry is running in the state among the fire service. NONE! Only your union bosses are the real proponants of the Kerry/Edwards ticket. But hey what do I know...or any of the other 75 firefighters that I spoke with at the Shippensburg Fair. I guess the union is too all knowing for us to make a real choice?
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 31, 2004 12:54:57 GMT -5
Schaitberger's Sept. Speech Endorsing Kerry -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I personally enjoyed him saying how all 260,000 of us will help support getting the Waffle elected. This thing is stink full of lies and mis-representation. If this doesn't make people want to throw this guy out and get mad at the way we are being used as pawns to further his political gains, then I honestly don't know what will.
SCHAITBERGER: "I am proud to announce that a few moments ago the IAFF Executive Board, the senior leadership of the fire fighters union, voted unanimously to endorse Senator John Kerry for President of the United States.
"Next Monday, we will be at a fire station in New Hampshire to formally kickoff the "Fire Fighters for Kerry Campaign," accompanied by hundreds of professional fire fighters and their families from the Granite State and across New England. Then, we will move on to Iowa, South Carolina, Arizona, and other early primary states to join our members there on our road to electing John Kerry as our next President.
"While America's fire fighters have many reasons for supporting Senator Kerry's candidacy, there are several that form the basis of our endorsement today. First and foremost, John Kerry represents the values that we, as fire fighters, embody and embrace. Just as fire fighters work on the front lines, under fire every day, so has John Kerry faced hostile fire as the gunboat he commanded fought its way up the Mekong Delta. Just as fire fighters have been hailed as heroes for their courage and their sacrifice, so has John Kerry been decorated as a war hero and recognized by his peers and his nation for his guts and his bravery.
"Just as fire fighters are acknowledged as America's domestic defenders, so has John Kerry proven his commitment to homeland security, backed by his extensive experience in defense issues and foreign affairs. Just as fire fighters protect the public from every conceivable emergency and disaster, so too has John Kerry protected the public for 30 years as a United States Senator, a hard-nosed prosecutor and a wartime Naval officer. John Kerry understands the true meaning of service and duty just as fire fighters do. We trust John Kerry because he is one of us. John Kerry can win and he will win.
"That's because America's fire fighters, the 260,000 men and women of the IAFF, who live, work, and protect 80 percent of the nation's population in thousands of communities will be helping him across all 50 states and throughout all 435 congressional districts in this country. The latest polls show that John Kerry can defeat George Bush and help put our country back on track at a time when our nation is at a crossroads and the Bush Administration has thrust our nation into the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. When we have watched a $237 billion budget surplus evaporate into the highest federal deficits in history, after only two and a half years of Bush's reign.
"When 41 million Americans are without health insurance and many of them must call 911 and use our fire departments and costly hospital emergency rooms for basic medical care because they simply cannot afford a family Doctor. When the number of unemployed Americans has grown by 49 percent since Bush took office, and, when cash-starved state and local governments are being forced to layoff fire fighters and cut other essential municipal services to their citizens.
"At a time like this we need someone with vision, integrity and experience to pull us out of this economic decline. And, the International Association of Fire Fighters knows that John Kerry has what it takes to do the job. He is a proven leader. He knows how to navigate Washington. He learned the hard way in Vietnam, in the courtroom, and in the halls of the U.S. Senate.
"America's fire fighters will be on the front lines of the Kerry campaign across this nation in the coming weeks and months just as we are on the front lines everyday to protect the safety of all Americans. And now John, let me give you the first "Fire Fighters for Kerry" T-shirt. I assure you that the public will be seeing a lot more of these gold and black shirts as this campaign moves forward to secure your nomination and ultimate victory on Election Day."
AND YOU CALL THIS THE REAL FIREFIGHTERS!! THANKS JONNY.
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 31, 2004 13:00:16 GMT -5
Article off AFL CIO Site -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With the nation’s economy staggering under rising unemployment, combined with the Bush administration’s tax cuts for millionaires and poorly crafted trade policies that encourage U.S. firms to move plants and jobs out of the country, working families face an increasingly difficult time making ends meet—and even keeping their jobs.
The Bush administration and Big Business and their congressional allies also are pushing new laws and job regulations attacking overtime that would save employers billions of dollars but cost working families. Equal pay laws have failed to close the wage gap between men and women. Low-wage workers haven’t seen an increase in the minimum wage since 1997. And the nation’s unemployment compensation system offers inadequate benefits for too short a time to too few jobless people.
Here’s a look at the issues that affect your job and paycheck, how you can fight back against the federal attacks on your livelihood and how to improve workers’ lives in your community through equal pay legislation and living wage laws
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 31, 2004 13:01:00 GMT -5
Lets break it down! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "With the nation’s economy staggering under rising unemployment"
Obviously spoke too soon. I wonder what they'll come up with now to make a case against the administration.
"combined with the Bush administration’s tax cuts for millionaires"
Tax cuts were across the board. The top 10% of Americans pay 70% of the taxes. Give a 2% tax brake to a person making 50,000 a year and another making 2 million and the outcome is obvious. The millionairs don't get a bigger tax break. They just see more money from the cuts because they pay more. If you remember in order to make this happen we actually gave money to people who didn't even pay taxes.
"and poorly crafted trade policies that encourage U.S. firms to move plants and jobs out of the country, working families face an increasingly difficult time making ends meet—and even keeping their jobs."
And what would the AFL CIO's solution be to this. Isolationism such as the Russians had when they were under communist rule. Don't allow competition and capitalism to rule the day. Let the government mandate if a business stays open or closes, where they are located, what they pay employees. Put the government in control of big business. Work for the state. Let us spread the wealth and insure all have job security whether you deserve it or not. There is a name for this. It's COMMUNISM. Oh! Lets not forget the unions and their antics aren't responsible for these business's relocating to greener pastures. The right to work states in the south that have a lower cost of living, Jobs a plenty, workers with more spending money, and cheap housing to spare is the product of the croocked capitalist pigs.
"The Bush administration and Big Business and their congressional allies also are pushing new laws and job regulations attacking overtime that would save employers billions of dollars but cost working families."
Wrong again! This does not apply to Firefighters and workers that perform manual labor. This is an effort to update an older version of a law that is costing us millions if not billions of dollars in lawsuits brought on by non other that the unions and lawyers. Of course they don't want the law to change. In it's present version the law gives the union a way to justify it's presents and it's lining the pockets of some of the union's favorite allies, LAWYERS!
"Equal pay laws have failed to close the wage gap between men and women. Low-wage workers haven’t seen an increase in the minimum wage since 1997. And the nation’s unemployment compensation system offers inadequate benefits for too short a time to too few jobless people."
Again, let's nationlize business so every individual is treated exactly the same. Don't pay any attention to the fact that Americans hold the highest standard of living of any large industrialized nation. We need to create a nation with a more socialized government like the Europeans who are forced to pay higher taxes, have a higher unemployment rate, are unable to effectively recover from economic downturns, and don't have near the opportunity we are afforded in America.
Let's really tackel our broken unemployment compensation progam. Lets sink more money into it regardless of the unmitigated monstrous abuse of the system this country and its taxpayers suffer.
"Here’s a look at the issues that affect your job and paycheck, how you can fight back against the federal attacks on your livelihood and how to improve workers’ lives in your community through equal pay legislation and living wage laws."
In this last portion of the article is becomes so transparent that the author is attempting to lead you down a road that will end up taking away your freedoms and livelyhood. These people want to make it mandatory for an employer to have to hire and keep you on. They want to make it mandatory that an employer pay you a minimum of what they feel is a living wage. This might sound good but try to get a business off the ground if you are a little guy. Small business owners would be devistated by this legislation. They will make it almost impossible for a little guy to do the things necessary to make a success of themselves. They are pulling the rug out from under the little guy and attacking the very essense of what makes this country great. THIS IS THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY NOT THE LAND OF ENTITLEMENT!
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Post by FF4Bush on Jul 31, 2004 18:01:09 GMT -5
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