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Post by Youngpup on Jul 31, 2004 18:18:09 GMT -5
Those statistics haven't proven to me that the IAFF has lied to me. Show me the proof. Do you actually think that we follow Harold blindly? No matter what he says, we do? I think not. But, I haven't found any evidence anywhere that our leadership has lied to us. If you have the evidence post it so I can believe you. I'm sitting on the fence on this election. I haven't made up my mind on who to vote for. Prove it to me that the IAFF has lied to me and I'll vote for Bush. And I'll say the exact same thing in Boston at our convention, "Prove to me that Kerry is the better candidate." Kerry did mention the fireservice more than once. The one that really sticks in my head was the quote that" The US should not be opening fire stations in Bahgdad when fire stations are being close in the US." He has a point. Again, prove to me they are lieing to me.
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Post by FF4Bush on Aug 1, 2004 17:19:25 GMT -5
HERE IS SOME LIES THAT THE AFL-CIO IS PROMOTING TO IT'S MEMBERS...
"With the nation’s economy staggering under rising unemployment"
THE UNEMPLOYMENT IS LOWER NOW THAN THAT OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.
"combined with the Bush administration’s tax cuts for millionaires"
TAX CUTS WERE ACROSS THE BOARD. I AM NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING RICH AND I AM MAKING MORE ON A PAYCHEQUE THAN BEFORE...JUST THINK OF THIS STATEMENT AS THE MOTTO OF THE LIBERALS--IF YOU MAKE MORE MONEY, IT'S DOING WELL; IF SOMEONE ELSE MAKES MORE MONEY, IT'S GREED! THE TOP 10% OF WAGE EARNERS PAY 70% OF TAXES, WHY? THE LIBERALS WANT TO TAKE FROM THE RICH AND [glow=red,2,300]GIVE[/glow] IT TO THE POOR. NOT MAKE THE POOR EARN IT, NOT GIVE INSENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE HARD WORK. NO, WE WILL GIVE THE MONEY WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONS ASKED.
"and poorly crafted trade policies that encourage U.S. firms to move plants and jobs out of the country, working families face an increasingly difficult time making ends meet—and even keeping their jobs."
THIS IS A GOOD ONE, FOR THIS IS THE REAL AGENDA OF THIS ORGANIZATION. IT'S SOCIALIST TO ATTEMPT TO CONTROL THE BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO OUTSOURCE. BUT WHAT THE UNIONS DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU IS THIS, WITH THE TAX CUTS (FOR ALL THOSE INVOLVED--THE BUSINESS THEMSELVES, THE CEO'S, AND THE WORKERS) THE COMPANIES WILL STAY HERE AND OTHERS WILL COME TO THIS COUNTRY AND OPEN UP, CREATING REVENUE.
"The Bush administration and Big Business and their congressional allies also are pushing new laws and job regulations attacking overtime that would save employers billions of dollars but cost working families."
WRONG, THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO FIREFIGHTERS & WORKERS THAT PERFORM MANUAL LABOR. THIS LAW UPDATES AN ANAQUATED LAW THAT IS COSTING US BILLIONS IN LAWSUITS. THE UPDATE WILL CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE THAT THE UNION BOSSES AND LABOR LAWYERS USE TO LINE THEIR POCKETS.
"Equal pay laws have failed to close the wage gap between men and women. Low-wage workers haven’t seen an increase in the minimum wage since 1997. And the nation’s unemployment compensation system offers inadequate benefits for too short a time to too few jobless people."
AGAIN, A SOCIALIST AGENDA. NATIONALIZING WAGES HAS ALREADY BEEN TRIED IN THE USSR, IT FAILED. PEOPLE COME TO THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE OF THE COMPETITION IN THE JOB MARKET, NOT BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO ENSURE THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO MAKE THE SAME, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU WORK. NO MATTER HOW MUCH ABUSE THAT EXISTS, WE JUST WANT TO SINK MORE MONEY INTO IT, SO THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED IT, DON'T HAVE A CHANCE.
"Here’s a look at the issues that affect your job and paycheck, how you can fight back against the federal attacks on your livelihood and how to improve workers’ lives in your community through equal pay legislation and living wage laws."
In this last portion of the article is becomes so transparent that the author is attempting to lead you down a road that will end up taking away your freedoms and livelyhood. These people want to make it mandatory for an employer to have to hire and keep you on. They want to make it mandatory that an employer pay you a minimum of what they feel is a living wage. This might sound good but try to get a business off the ground if you are a little guy. Small business owners would be devistated by this legislation. They will make it almost impossible for a little guy to do the things necessary to make a success of themselves. They are pulling the rug out from under the little guy and attacking the very essense of what makes this country great. THIS IS THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY NOT THE LAND OF ENTITLEMENT!
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Post by FF4Bush on Aug 1, 2004 17:48:19 GMT -5
In King Harold's endorsement (and yes pup, it does look as the union follows the endorsement blindly), there were some things that don't add up. He says that Kerry's values and that of the firefighters are the same. Mentioning Kerry's Vietnam service. Kerry uses the Vietnam service as a crutch and then spits on the vets that served there by going before congress and saying the excutions and other attrocities were widespread. Kerry then has been pictured with the Viet Cong and NVA commanders in the '70's, and in the '80's he was pictured with Danial Ortega, a Nicaraguan, and Soviet backed dictator that was a soldier of the enemy in the Cold War. Now, is this the values that you want to be associated with.
The speech says that we are in the "Worst Economic Crisis Since The Great Depression". Pub, where is this true. We had a recession, a drawback in the economy. This has also been proven that the Clinton policies is to blame for this slowdown. So, the economy is not is crisis and it is scare tactics. We have a strong economy, with jobs increasing every month and wages increasing.
It is then stated that unemployment has increased by 49%. Again, we have an unemployement rate is lower than that of the previous administration.
Values, these are not the values that I have. I think most of us don't share these. But are we strong enough to see through the smoke and mirrors.
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Post by FF4Bush on Aug 6, 2004 5:37:32 GMT -5
Worst president in history?
Liberals and most democrats claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his mismanagement of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history.
Let's clear up one point:
President Bush didn't start the war on terror.
Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11. OK, let's look at the "worst" president nominees and "mismanagement"claims.
FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us, Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.
Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.
John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. Clinton was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and he did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. Over 2,900 lives were lost on 9/11.
In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, rushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran, and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
We have lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year.
Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.
Worst president in history?
Sure doesn't appear to be Bush!
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquidskin flute.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
Our military is GREAT!
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Post by FF4Bush on Aug 9, 2004 17:26:49 GMT -5
Congrats to New Franklin and Marion FD"S for their grants from the HOMELAND SECURITY DEPARTMENT. Again, shows that the IAFF is wrong about the current administration!
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Post by Bill on Aug 12, 2004 17:49:56 GMT -5
And yet another narrowminded oversimplification.. I've got a full plate. I just can't seem to fit in politics or political rallies. Thank God for those of you that can and make the effort. Because if it weren't for you, the Bill Clintons and John Kerrys of the U.S. would run rampant and finish selling all of us out!! Looks like 911 didn't wake up a few folks. President George W. Bush and his administration proved to the World that the United States of America is not screwing around! AND WE NEED TO STAY THE COURSE! Otherwise, there will be no Democrats, or Republicans, or Freedom, or Diversity, or anything else as we know it. There will be terrorism, anarchy and Bin Laden and all the baggage that goes with this. President George W. Bush, we have not forgotten and stand ready on November 4th to do what we need to do. So that we are able to continue to do what we need to do in the United States of America.
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Post by FF4Bush on Aug 18, 2004 8:00:23 GMT -5
Help President Bush and the Republican ticket win our state! With less than 77 days before the presidential election, your help is needed. WHAT: War Hero Capt. Scott O'Grady hosts Veterans Outreach Tour! (This event is sponsored by the Republican National Committee.) WHEN: Friday, August 20 from 5:00 PM - 5:45 PM WHERE: Rally with General Bill Lynch and Franklin County Veterans Orchards Restaurant and Conference Center 1580 Orchard Dr. Chambersburg, PA CONTACT: Ben Rice EMAIL: Grand_Ol_Party@yahoo.com
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Post by FF4Bush on Sept 17, 2004 1:43:56 GMT -5
I am looking for local's (vollunteer and carreer) that are conservative politically and want to make a difference. A group of firefighters nationally are organizing to combat the political abuse from the labor unions. This group, which will exist as a "527". With more people comming forward, local chapters will organize. Please, it will be a rewarding effort and you wont be alone. Already, many emergency services personel have come forward to support us.
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Post by FF4Bush on Sept 24, 2004 4:19:11 GMT -5
LINKS HAVE BEEN REMOVED HMWMDSpecialist ADMINISTRATOR
Shocking Video!!
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Post by HMWMDSpecialist on Sept 24, 2004 18:45:40 GMT -5
Ben have you lost your mind. How dare you post links like that here or anywhere. I can not believe you put that material on this site. I am banning your IP address and your account. I can handle the political postings but this is unacceptable.
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Post by Bill on Sept 25, 2004 21:07:39 GMT -5
If you post those terrorist links here you are promoting those terrorist links/activities here and it's just that simple.
There are enough sites on the net that assume that role.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of terrorist activities and their families!
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Post by thenumber1snowman on Sept 27, 2004 13:56:35 GMT -5
Go to this link below and play, John Kerry's Flip Flop Olympics. It is funny as Chit! www.georgewbush.comSnowman
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If you can't do it call a SQUAD or TRUCK CO.
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Post by darescuesquad on Feb 12, 2005 18:25:32 GMT -5
Hey Les
I got your im thanks B.
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Post by HMWMDSpecialist on Feb 12, 2005 20:03:20 GMT -5
Hey B got it all fixed now. thanks for you assistance.
Les
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